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Post by scnr on Jun 25, 2006 5:26:20 GMT -5
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Post by Southshields on Jun 25, 2006 7:24:06 GMT -5
Yes, the trailer is very funny. I also feel very sorry for anyone who ends up posting alone. If the owners of a board aren’t interested in growing it, then they should close it down. I haven’t a clue who is supposed to be responsible for this one, but it has a very poor record in respect of moderator support. It was dead over the whole of the Christmas break. |
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Post by The Beak on Jun 25, 2006 9:30:56 GMT -5
If the owners of a board aren’t interested in growing it, then they should close it down. An opinion to which you’re entitled but I think that there is room on the web for all sorts and there are many, many boards awash with moderators for those that want them. This one is just a mechanism for people to talk to each other about certain things if they wish. Any castaways who happen across it are welcome on its shores but actively plugging it is all a bit showy for me. Sorry. |
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Post by Southshields on Jun 25, 2006 12:21:49 GMT -5
An opinion to which you’re entitled but I think that there is room on the web for all sorts and there are many, many boards awash with moderators for those that want them. This one is just a mechanism for people to talk to each other about certain things if they wish. Any castaways who happen across it are welcome on its shores but actively plugging it is all a bit showy for me. Sorry. This sounds exactly like the response from a Radio 4 message board host. These were the very people who you were so highly critical of. Quite justifiably, you condemned R4 message board hosts because they showed little interest in their boards, didn’t encourage or stimulate debate and were only too happy to leave a posting with a zero against it. Here you are now, behaving in exactly the same way and leaving one individual to devote significant time to posting. I know of at least one individual who left this board simply because none of your moderators could be bothered to take an active interest in this board. |
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Post by Lux Interior on Jun 25, 2006 17:51:34 GMT -5
An opinion to which you’re entitled but I think that there is room on the web for all sorts and there are many, many boards awash with moderators for those that want them. This one is just a mechanism for people to talk to each other about certain things if they wish. Any castaways who happen across it are welcome on its shores but actively plugging it is all a bit showy for me. Sorry. This sounds exactly like the response from a Radio 4 message board host. These were the very people who you were so highly critical of. Quite justifiably, you condemned R4 message board hosts because they showed little interest in their boards, didn’t encourage or stimulate debate and were only too happy to leave a posting with a zero against it. Here you are now, behaving in exactly the same way and leaving one individual to devote significant time to posting. I know of at least one individual who left this board simply because none of your moderators could be bothered to take an active interest in this board. I have to admit having not posted much here recently, because I have other things taking my time - and they really do take my time. I am very pleased that the board is still here every time I feel like visiting it, whether anyone has posted or not. I have noticed that the host replies to anyone who does post, even if it is "eventually" (one assumes Host has other commitments) and does so in a very courteous fashion. Host never says anything nasty, provides a place for us to play if we want to, does not berate us if we don't. This is not, to me, a place which should inspire people to leave because they are incensed about lack of activity. Does anyone make a fuss about leaving Akira's board because of that? No. So why should it be different here? I might go and place a post on one of the games, since I'm here. But since I've not been listening to R4 much recently, and what I have heard inspires not at all, I have nothing much to say otherwise. |
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Post by Lawrence Jones on Jun 26, 2006 0:58:26 GMT -5
An opinion to which you’re entitled but I think that there is room on the web for all sorts and there are many, many boards awash with moderators for those that want them. This one is just a mechanism for people to talk to each other about certain things if they wish. Any castaways who happen across it are welcome on its shores but actively plugging it is all a bit showy for me. Sorry. This sounds exactly like the response from a Radio 4 message board host. These were the very people who you were so highly critical of. Quite justifiably, you condemned R4 message board hosts because they showed little interest in their boards, didn’t encourage or stimulate debate and were only too happy to leave a posting with a zero against it. Here you are now, behaving in exactly the same way and leaving one individual to devote significant time to posting. I know of at least one individual who left this board simply because none of your moderators could be bothered to take an active interest in this board. Southshields, I’d say the problem with Proboard MBs is the lack of access to advertising resources to let others know about them. It’s unlikely that people will stumble across this board, but even if they do, the lack of a sizeable number of contributors won’t entice a new visitor to stay. To my knowledge this board was started for the very best of intentions: the failure of R4 to provide an adequate messgae board environment. I’m also aware – from personal experience – that R4 and its hosts treat its most devoted listenrs with complete disrespect. This doesn’t go on here, so I wouldn’t be as critical as you. Also, the reality of Proboards MBs is that most of them end up as chatrooms – not for me and so I understand ‘The Beak’s’ comments concerning moderator contributions only too well. Radio 4 has a captured audience and doesn’t need to worry about the way it treats it’s listeners or MB contributors: they’re easily replaceable. However, even if this new Channel 4 venture takes just 10% of their listners (about 1 million people), then R4 really will have to start worrying. I had a letter published in The Independent (1) recently, detailing my own expereinces with R4 and its messageboards. I also described how I’d written (emailed) to Feedback numerous times asking for help (as had others) and our communications were ignored completely. Now Channel 4 executives read the meida column in the Independent, so at least they know about the cosy relationship that exists between R4 and Feedback and so might be tempted to do something about it. That is to say they might start up their own broadcasting message boards, together with a Feedback competitor. We’d soon see a very active Feedback website once this started. One of last night’s contributors to Feedback ran rings around Mr. Damazer and – during the discussion about Black/white presenetrs - summed up the whole discussion admirably with the comment: ‘it a job for life’ (speaking about the fact that everyone knows tenure exists within R4) and the sooner this ends, the better. In fact I believe unwritten tenure exists throughout most of R4. ReferenceJones L. A. ‘Cast Adrift’ The Independent (media section) 24th April 2006 p12 |
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Post by The Beak on Jun 27, 2006 11:16:02 GMT -5
An opinion to which you’re entitled but I think that there is room on the web for all sorts and there are many, many boards awash with moderators for those that want them. This one is just a mechanism for people to talk to each other about certain things if they wish. Any castaways who happen across it are welcome on its shores but actively plugging it is all a bit showy for me. Sorry. This sounds exactly like the response from a Radio 4 message board host. These were the very people who you were so highly critical of. Quite justifiably, you condemned R4 message board hosts because they showed little interest in their boards, didn’t encourage or stimulate debate and were only too happy to leave a posting with a zero against it. Here you are now, behaving in exactly the same way and leaving one individual to devote significant time to posting. I know of at least one individual who left this board simply because none of your moderators could be bothered to take an active interest in this board. I did not suggest that the BBC Hosts/ Moderators should be doing more to increase membership, which seemed to be your greatest concern. My principal gripe with the Radio4 messageboards was always that they were, at least implicitly, presented as a conduit for interaction between programme-makers and listeners but that interaction rarely occurred. Where any form of interaction did take place it was via the Hosts, who were paid to fulfil this role. They were also the principal source of information and answers to questions so their apparent frequency and length of their absences was frustrating. If you feel that there are any queries about this board which I haven’t answered, if you bring them to my attention I shall do my best to answer them. |
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