Pooka
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Post by Pooka on Oct 14, 2005 10:20:30 GMT -5
... if you have a good-looking 'gal' then the more men look at her the more puffed up my chest becomes. I see. Actually, it takes quite a well-grounded individual to think like that. Though, some women dress provocatively to get the attention of other men. That's completely wrong, IMO, especially when they're already paired up.  S'okay. Spare me the details, unless of course, you'd like to share.  |
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sea horse
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Post by sea horse on Oct 19, 2005 8:42:03 GMT -5
There's a lot of style in the UK, and for the most part, it's done well. This is called tact. I think, at all ages and all levels of society, the British dress very poorly (poor style or lack of style) compared to their European counterparts. Fortunately, however, many Americans do dress even worse. |
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Post by sea horse on Oct 19, 2005 8:55:17 GMT -5
School uniforms Good. Slummocking around in baggy jeans and exposed midriffs instead of school uniforms Bad. IMHO. But no doubt I'm very old fashioned on this one. They stop any competitiveness among the pupils about who has the most "fashionable" kit. Those from poorer households with many children probably cannot afford to keep up. It identifies which school they attend, when outside. Uniforms try to do what their name suggests, create uniformity, not only in appearance but also in thought and behaviour. Just nobody in organised education admits this. When I was younger and had to wear a uniform, it was often claimed uniforms helped disguise social differences between pupils/families, but this was nonsense, since usually the pupils at any one school come from the same or similar catchment areas and what small differences do exist still come out in the dress condition and how it is worn. Some kids look really scruffy in their uniforms; they would probably pay more attention to their appearance if dressed in baggy jeans and exposed midriffs or whatever. Most schools on the Continent do not require uniforms, with as far as I know with no detrimental effects. And reducing teenage competitiveness about "fashionable" wear is a change required in society, but not achieved by requiring uniforms (like restricting drinking doesn't really change drinking attitudes). Why do you want to identify the school a child attends? It reminds me of how cows are given brands. |
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sea horse
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Post by sea horse on Oct 19, 2005 9:09:46 GMT -5
Colour (color) is also something that I love and I like it (in a female) when the colour of clothing enhances the hair (and vice-versa). I think trousers have been an absolute revolution for women ... One of the females always has an exposed midriff and she admits that she does this because she wants the males to look at her. However she is a very keen runner and swimmer and does possess a very flat stomach, so it does tend to be eye catching My impression is that most women don't normally dress to attract men, I'd include the bare midriff in this too. Okay there will be occasions, when out on the prowl, or hoping for a flattering glance, or with their lover, but don't women more often dress to keep up with, or even better, other women, or to please themselves, or to make themselves properly dressed, possibly also smartly dressed, for the occasion??? On the other hand, if men dressed a bit more to attract women, perhaps it wouldn't be a bad thing. Without becoming posing adonises, men still have more potential to dress well and to dress less plainly (both style and colour) than most use or realise. And it doesn't necessarily mean 'fashion', or a flat stomach (though not having a beer stomach might help). On another tack, while I understand how trousers for women have been a godsend in certain situations, I don't think the skirt should be ruled out altogether for either gender. There are definite advantages sometimes, which is why something similar to a skirt is worn in the Arab and Indian world by men (and perhaps a reason for a kilt too). |
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Post by Nurse Duckett on Oct 19, 2005 16:10:07 GMT -5
When I was younger and had to wear a uniform, it was often claimed uniforms helped disguise social differences between pupils/families, but this was nonsense, since usually the pupils at any one school come from the same or similar catchment areas and what small differences do exist still come out in the dress condition and how it is worn. Some kids look really scruffy in their uniforms; they would probably pay more attention to their appearance if dressed in baggy jeans and exposed midriffs or whatever. Not nonsense at the school I went to, sea horse! If kids looked scruffy in their uniforms they'd get hauled up on detention. But maybe you went to a big city school (same or similar catchment areas): I went to a county grammar with catchment area so many miles across that kids (actually I can't stand the word kids but nevertheless) had to get trains to get to school as well as bus and bike there. The entire social landscape was represented at that school, grammar notwithstanding IIRC. Hence, the school uniform, the tidiness of which was enforced, smoothed out the 'social differences'. Up to a point. (Lord Copper)  It helps to track down miscreants who steal from the local shops.  ps.  good to see you back |
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Post by Vneck Billy on Oct 20, 2005 1:00:25 GMT -5
Ah yes, but non-uniformity can be extremely competitive and costly within a school. How is a family with limited economic resources supposed to cope with such demands? I wore a school uniform between the ages of 4 and 18 and it did nothing to suppress my own non-uniformity of thought or behaviour. I could still refuse to wear turn-ups on my trousers and wear my v-neck pullover back-to-front. Tab shirts were just as cheap (loved the collars) as establishment shirts and broke the rules in quite a crafty manner. The same applied to the style in which one wore one’s scarf. Style and length of hair also presented a challenge - one can do wonders with a tub of Brylcreem!
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Post by Captain Nudnick on Oct 20, 2005 2:12:59 GMT -5
Just like all the other non-conformists, eh?
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